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Hello Willy, If the approved rule change is easy to find please share it with us by providing a link or the text and date. I'm certainly not sorry I escaped all those years ago. The rule change affects all BJ players - all the time. Apparently this rule change is now to be investigated as it was not done legally. Having said that if you are giving the punter that extra mile you should keep them loyal. At the same time the higher limit player is well aware of the difference. In Ian's case he is a card counter, so take his word for it. The board exists to ensure punters get a fair go, so how can they justify approving the change? Please get back to us when you've done some work. The thing is, the average low limit player has no clue that it makes a difference at all, even though it makes a pretty big difference. The rule change has not been implemented in the high-roller areas. Which means that when the dealer is on a Pontoon Game he follows the Pontoon specific rules such as From a dealer spoint of view when they are on a normalBJ table they stand on soft When they are on a Pontoon table they stand on hard Hope that clears it up. A small fine and all's forgotten. NYGiant 7. Surely, any rule which allows the player a choice only has effect if the player exercises that choice while if the rule affects the way the game is dealt there must be an effect on the margin. Whether a player plays basic strategy or not the fact is that the rules have been changed adding approximately 0. We were hitting soft 17 for years. All of which means that the decision by the Crown brains trust to quietly change the rules of someof its blackjack games three weeks ago underlines the cynicism of a business that runs on greed. However when you get to section 10 it states. We all know the sort, every 5 minutes asking how long they have been playing and what there average bet is. The rule 7. Why the rule change now one wonders, are PBL short of money? I myself do not see the problem with rule change to increase profit even though in a competetive market vegas, ac I can see the reluctance to do so. Did a little bit of research This rule was approved many years ago. Section 7 refers to the base rules of the game of blackjack. Has Crown also made the change at Burswood? The link and date of rule changes is very easy to find. I would presume that hitting Soft 17 is the norm in the S. And for all that he is probably comped for his room a handful of shows and a couple of decent meals. To change that rule, Crown would have to apply to the casino control board for a change in the law. For example. You need to have a good understanding of BS for this. How is dear old Crown? Peter Cohen, the commission's chief executive, said the watchdog was investigating whether Crown had permission to change the rules and why it wasn't displayed online. I'm getting confused!! On this occasion the player doubling on 11 gets a dealt a 7, could be better but still a favourite to win. As Mike said it coincides with the 10th anniversary of the property and any casino complex that gets around , visitors on a weekend there's not so many of them on the planet will always be the center of local media attention. Do the rules seem ambiguous??? As Victoria indicated many large Casino have dual edges at different prices, including the likes of Wynn. Here many casinos have gone to the dealer hitting soft 17 and many have dual rules where on higher limit tables the dealer stays and lower limit tables the dealer hits. I have copied the sections of rules that seem to apply to the discussion Ian, this means you will have some part of the detail! An old saying is of course - If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Section 10 refers to a subgame of Blackjack known in Australia as Pontoon. A couple of other things spring to mind on this topic. Section 1 to 9 of the rules cover the basics of the game. Las Vegas Sands don't seem too worried however The stories get worse The Casino Control Act states that all blackjack rules must be approved by the Victorian Commission for Gambling Regulation and published on the website. April 28th was the delayed opening date, now the website says simply "Opening soon". Changes to rules only influence the edge if it impacts upon the strategy customers utilise. This is why I was curious about how and by who the decision to draw or stay is made. It seem's that there is a rule on the books but clarity does not appear to have been of essence when it was written. If any proof were needed of the calculating nature of this decision, it is that the rule change has not been imposed on the casino's "elite" Mahogany Room and the "salons" reserved for the international high rollers that Crown woos so relentlessly. Thanks for the link.

Believe it or not they have changed the rules on BlackJack to enable them to rake in more cash from desperate punters. I should have said 7. It affects every BJ player. Crown blackjack forum it qualifies as being an extremely sneaky rule change IMHO, not quite as bad as Las Vegas Strip casinos stiffing punters by paying 6 to 5 for BJ's, but definately heading in the same direction.

The dealer then pulls an Ace for Soft Previously the Player was a winner but the Dealer must now take another card and out comes a 3 for a Dealer Of course it could also have gone the other way and the dealer pulls an 8 on the Soft 17 and then busts.

So casinos here have the vast majority of their CSM's on low limit tables to get more hands played, and their worst rules on these tables. The only Crown customers it doesn't effect are the ones who don't play Blackjack. Not just click for source the Government will actually DO anything, they make too much money off the casino.

As for the bigger player not a whale crown blackjack forum need to be squeezing as much as you can out of them. In Vegas, casinos like the Hilton and Caesars which went from almost all tables S crown blackjack forum almost all H have lost a significant amount of higher limit players to the point that Hilton is hurting, while Caesars keeps pokerstars webstore in Harrah trained players who would not know a good from a bad game ever.

Dealers make no decisions on play. Let the market sort it out. The casino went to extraordinary expense to change the felt on every BlackJack table on the main floor public area so that the new rule is explained.

Johnkst Just because someone is a card counter does not mean they understand the intricacy of blackjack rule changes on sub optimal playing. Willy, You're doing a great job defending your position. Just a higher percentage rent on the players for the use of that chair.

This crown blackjack forum just a grab for cash from the ordinary punter or what management refer click as the "grind".

It's a bit naughty when Crown has no competition in Victoria. Of course it might make it more confusing. This is interesting. It is unfortunate for the player but even as a player, I can understand why it is done Victoria.

Soft 17 on 8 decks increases the average dealers winning hand from If the customers is not sitting and hitting correctly in the higher band totals this increase will go here less.

Yes Crown Casino is 10 years old and who knows how long their monopoly will last. Something to ponder. Put simply, the new house rule gives the casino an advantage that will drag several more million dollars a year from the same number of suckers. Therefore to say that a General rule change on Blackjack in favour of the house only affects players who play a certain way is nonsense.

Willy It appears that 7. All Thanks for the interesting and thoughful discussions on this topic.

We just changed back to be more competitive. This rule has actually been permitted in the UK for a few years now If you have one! If so, a new breed of dealer must be forthcoming, capable of making 'business' decisions which will directly affect percentages. There is a file there but my Adobe PDF reader will not load it. Crown would have had to apply to get the game approved, yet it cannot be argued it's to the players advantage or benefit. Dealers on BlackJack now draw a card to a "soft 17" total eg, an ace and a six , creating a significantly higher "house advantage". If a player is sat at the table and is betting then the rule change DOES affect them. Tejas, that's my point. Sorry I have to disagree with your statement. If the players don't play it, they will have to react.