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Yeah, nice read. I went with the assumption that they would be cheating most of the time so if there's one at your table there's likely another. Guys like you and jph would have a tough time recognizing it Multitabling like you do. Guys, if you read this, your karma is so fxxked up, I am pretty sure that all of this will come back to you guys. Great blog post Daleroxxu : and yes it is scary stuff Makes you think its only the tip of the iceberg stuff and that the problems are well rooted. Dale, This is unbeleivable. Did you find a lot of instances where you only played against one of the players named? Great article Dale, and very interesting. Each player provides photo ID, and we check their play via our bot detection tools. We have luck that Pokerstars support take this problem seriously, but maybe we should stop this kind of tnt.. Hey daleroxxu, thank you very much for your investigation in this scandal, unfortunately I am a victim of this frustrating collusion ring too. I prefer 10s and 20s. I kill'em at the casino's, yet I constantly lose on the Internet? I hope this has answered your question completely. Sikkk Any chance linking up my blog dale? There are many more than 30 customers of this retail outlet, which is a unique concept to China due to the difficulty in getting funds onto the site from that region of the world. I think they took me 10k in January. I wonder how PS will combat this issue for good. Bars Hunter. I firmly believe the same shit is going down at FR 25NL aswell. Frankly at the onset I was getting a lot of flack, my credibility- while intact, was definitely in play, you could say that I was put all-in That transaction has sent an unconventional message to the investment community that the main stream media hasn't yet picked up on and that is, forget about what is legal now, lets fight and make it legal What is rather strange about such an envious approach is that, usually, there is no money on the front end of a fight against governments and regulators. I reported a few of them in the past for suspected collusion. Thank you, Dale, for all your efforts. I too have been a victim of many SnG's where the Chinese are dumping chips or collaborating with one another. I had a lot of situations looks like collusion.

DoN tnt are the place to be click cheaters. Didn't realise it was such a long post when I started, but a very interesting read. The establishment is a retail outlet similar to a strip mall with several computers set up to allow customers to come in, get set up, and play on PokerStars even though they may not have their own computer, or a credit card to fund their account.

Big stack folded a lot of times against the shortstack and called them with an marginal hand against a middle does pokerstars have double or nothing - a lot of times against me Thank you for the investigation. I also experienced check fold situation.

Like at least 4 different people at the table wanted to see his cards Collusion sucks. Crazy thing is, I am a pretty decent does pokerstars have double or nothing.

Thanks for the article, early in the year I had a horrible stretch, I wonder if this had something to do with it. Especially chenxr, Lazzzzzzzy, gucci53, Xuanyu.

I am trying to define if online poker is a viable and legitimate form of risk for the investment community and of course, its regulators. Anyway Ive reported spanish players within the last 30 days nothing against Spain, it just so happens they were all spanish players and all were found to be colluding and booted.

The school also offers lessons in poker play, and in how to play multiple tables at once. I was playing during that time, DoNs, and lost check this out time.

Dale, Would you be available for an interview in upcoming days regarding this? Hi Dale. To spend days on end with scumbags? Unfortunately I had shipped some money from other Networks to Stars when the collusion ring was introduced, to play some higher SNGs. If so, it might be worth reviewing those games for any cheaters that might have been missed.

Now the same is happening in Fifty A group of Russian and Ukrain players are doing does pokerstars have double or nothing same.

Nice work. For anyone using Holdem Manager, I included a SQL statement you can does pokerstars have double or nothing against your db to find any tournaments you played with the players identified in the 2p2 thread.

Dale, Anymore news? I'm unable to send PMs over there due to zero post history I'm on fivesmail If that won't work I'll try some other way to get in touch.

I mean literally if you knew they were going to be colluding, then you could actually just adjust to it, like any other game condition and it would still be terrible, but if you're playing based on other players in the game using "general strategy" if it's not "optimal strategy" So the SB just calls the 3x, the 8x bet from the BB now stands He had AA, ended up getting called by one of the flatters with TT I tried to get to see the 8x guy's cards, but the dealer shuffled them into the muck, I mean WTF?

I'd love to say that was down to cheating, but my inept strategy for DON's was probably the cause in equal measure.

One of the problems with DoNs is that the regulars play so many tables they don't pay attention to the action. I think Poker Stars should over-compensate you for this, as well as add you to their security team.

Excellent Post! L', 'chenxr', 'flypretty', 'nayouyi', 'hzlsl', 'freetime', 'xxwpk', 'microsoft25', 'wenpk', 'strong arm A', 'degreexia', 'ellena', 'jinse', 'liuli', 'rara', 'dcbm', 'linyin', 'yangguangze', 'pakerster', 'yutian', 'wenpk', 'coroinpu', 'maomao', 'hslj', 'psnyls', 'goloverez', 'leaders', 'guiliang', 'chijianli', 'xiawenju', '', 'wzem', 'mnbqwe12', 'wzhongz', 'superxia', 'sishun' ; Dale, from reading your blog and watching your videos it seems you really like to take time out of your busy schedule to help other players : I posted some graphs showing my DoN results for this month and I've never experienced anything like that before.

I was one of those who gave up after losing so many times. Great read and well done sniffing some dodgy chinks out!!! They've been talking of ditching the DoNs for ages, kinda seems like the power of collusion is enough argument for them to do it Why am I now surprised!

Moreover, the industry has yet to establish their control over the environment where article source invite players to play, and that's a serious hurdle.

I remember having a go at DoN's at the end of last year, not having nearly the same success as I had when playing them the first time out One of the worst thing is that obviously if you're unaware of collusion at the table, is when you have a marginal situation come up, which you obviously pass on if you're say a medium stack with a short stack about to pass through the blinds - a situation you could probably push through, but you're better EV to sit it out, see what happens to the short stack. They do not seem to be running bots, and all players from there appear to be human by every test we have designed. Now I know, and am sick about it. Have you ever had a period where you ran so much below EV in those games? Absolute scum. Anyways, I am hoping that stars had frozen all of their bankrolls and we will have a refund. It affects players more than just the buy-ins they lose, but anyway nice going on this info. I really enjoy poker, but I cannot play on a site that does not protect my safety and security [regarding my money]. Thank you for the information. Our affiliates team watches this group closely to ensure that they cannot play at the same tables as one another, and that they are not sharing information. Nice post. L, and this fxxked up scumbag Sishun are so fucking branded in my braincells. I remember the majority of these players, and so much suspect play. Nice post Dale, thanks to everyone who pays way more attention than I do and takes the time to report these things. Will see if PS give some money back Certanly, nice comment about the chinesse ppl in my blog ;. So give a try for some k SNGs in the high stakes and yeehaaa Chinese Collusion screws your bankroll on stars to approximately zero. Just couldn't figure out why I had gotten so bad. I would prefer to hear story's about these cheats getting caught and prosecuted form stars, make them public and try to assure us that there doing all they can, and more, not sweep them under the carpet and pay people off to keep sch-tum!!! This is the big problem with DON, I even tough that it would be better to play "anonymous" like in warcraft 3 FFA but then no read on other players That is a very great article. There is nothing of concern regarding these players, though we do continue to keep an eye on them to make sure that this remains the case. With that said, the 2P2 thread is out of control, collusion went from underestimated to way overestimated in the matter of 2 days, games are still purrty good, keep grinding guys. And your other commentors are correct, the damage by this goes way beyond just the money they cheated. They're probably the most knowledgable and can detect unusual plays if they paid attention. I can very good remember that in nearly every of my SNG that I have played at this time one or more of those names were involved in my games. Please do not hesitate to let us know any time you need anything. I only play tables so i can recognize alot of the crap that goes on. Again about stars' image, if there security seeks out mass scale cheating surely its easier for them to say nothing and protect there precious image and hope no-one cottons on, Maybe that's where there priorities lie.